Been listening repeatedly to your Emptiness Satsang.....all night at times.
Yesterday about 3 am......that Emptiness became me.
Not sure what terms to use here. I was the Emptiness and all the outside and body was the ME/ consciousness part.
I could examine things external within my 'bucket of emptiness'. Everything was external and I the observer was at peace.
Consciousness could be brought into the bucket, bliss could be brought to the bucket, anger could be placed there, anything could be placed in the bucket .
This lasted most of the day . While laying on the couch a brass pull chain and blue cut crystal was placed in the bucket and you know.......I could become that antique pull chain and Know all about it.
Quite and experience and will listen at nights to your satsang to reinforce that passage into Emptiness.
Love you, steve
OH! forgot. I was watching the plaster ceiling in the living room and it turned into waves and light........I know that the ceiling is not real , only the mind makes it real.
A critical but balanced commentary on the Enlightenment I teachings of Massoro, the good and the bad. Excellent choice to experientially understand some aspects of Ramana Maharshi's and Nisargadatta's Advaita, but not other aspects.
A great deal of his text's value rests on his convincing you of the properties of presence-energy, which is always and ever available. You have to find this in yourself, or create this experience in yourself to be able to use his methodology.
But he gets better when talking about awareness, always and ever available and aware--even when it is not. He gives an experiential feel for the Advaita terms, and is rather convincing that you have to believe his story that connects all the threads.
Robert used to open Satsangs saying, “You don’t exist.You are not real.Youhave been hypnotized into believing you are a fixed human being with a
body and mind, living in a larger container world context.You are not that at all. This is only a
mirage, an appearance.What you are is
entirely beyond that.”
Ponder this: All that you know or experience has come to you
through your consciousness. You have been taught you are a body/mind within a
context of a larger physical world.You
go to college and learn that the appearances within this
consciousness-appearance world has underlying laws such as Newton’s Laws of
Motion, Einstein’s relativity theories, quantum mechanics, inorganic and
organic chemistry.Studying these things
make the world more solid and real to you because you reinforce the “truth” of
entities that are self-exosting and independent from you.
HOWEVER, the more you study these sciences, the more often
you find the current and most advanced teachings are saying:nothing exists; emptiness permeates
everything; the universe collapses into blackhole, dimensionless
singularities.The more science pushes
the boundaries of knowledge, the less substantive its “solidity” appears.
Robert’s firsthand experience confirms what science is
currently finding, and that is ultimately nothing exists, everything is an
appearance within the field of consciousness, which ‘I’ observe (see, feel,
hear, taste, touch, intuit).All
objects, happenings, and processes are merely appearance and not real.
THIS INCLUDES YOUR EXPERIENCE AS BEING AN INDIVIDUATED BODY,
SEPARATE FROM OTHERS AND FROM THE WORLD.Nothing you experience is real.It is just an appearance in consciousness.
If you are still, very quiet, letting your body relax
entirely, so much that your mind stops with its endless thoughts about how you
as a body/mind, are required to do next, such as eat, pay taxes, find a job, do
a Google search, or buy a laptop.The
endless self-talk about the external world and your place in it, is precisely
that which prevents you from looking within more deeply to find the underlying
beingness of your “truer” existence as the totality of consciousness.
Quieting the mind by sitting in silence, going within begins
the path of self-inquiry where eventually you find out that you have notning to
do with this world.You are merely and
observer, one who is self-aware that it is observing the flow of appearances in
consciousness, and itself is untouched by this “play.”
When I wa a Mt. Baldy sitting in meditation in the Zendo,
after a few minutes of sitting, the human I would disappear and I would become
the totality of consciousness.No me,
just I am one with everything (all appearances in consciousness), yet, from
time to time I would note to myself, that although I felt one with the entirety
of everything that I perceived, from time to time a different kind of silent
thought would arise, that pointed out to me, the observer, that I was in a
state wherein I identified with the totality of my experience of consciousness,
you I, as observer, was still separate in the sense I was aware that I was THE
witness of the whole show.
Then, when the meditation period ended, I returned to being
a human, dressed in black robes, walking down a snow-filled path towards the
chanting hall, or upwards towards Roshi’s cabin, for our face-to-face meeting
to check my mind.
I used to wonder which state was real—the unity with
consciousness state found in meditation, or the black-robed human body state.
The answer is: what is true depends on YOU in the
moment.You can take yourself to be a
human when you allow it, or you can be in unity with consciousness, and also
its observer, if and when you prefer this hugely expanded and hugely more
peaceful “reality.”But, when you decide
to fully reenter the human state, you are also aware or your different level of
existence as everything, and also as nothing within that everything, and that
you are even beyond that everything as its self-aware witness that itself
cannot actually be witnessed, because it has no form, or characteristic, no feeling,
by which it can be seen itself or experienced itself.
That witness is entirely beyond consciousness
and IS not of this world.
Upon deep reflection and inner attention, the emptiness
within is found to be exactly the same as the space around us. Inner time,
subjective time, like external clock time, measures the arising and
disappearance of objects.Inner and
outer space/time is the container of all objects of consciousness.But all arise from and are swallowed by
nothingness while the eternal I in each of us watches. This the truth.
It is 10,000 times more
“enlightening” to be able to watch yourself slowly awaken into somethingness
(consciousness), and then at night to watch your somethingness, your
consciousness, slowly submerge and dissipate into nothingness, than it is to
read all 3,000 pages of Robert’s transcripts 10,000 times, which talk
about Nothingness and Consciousness, . If you just read about Nothingness and
consciousness from Robert or from Nisargadatta, you only learn a concept which
you try to fill in with your own experience in order to make the concept of
nothingness your own.But it ever will
only be a concept.
But when you can watch your
consciousness as you, including your sense of presence, your mind, and your
awareness arise from nothingness and set there too, it is no longer a concept.
You know that nothingness is your true nature, and somethingness,
consciousness, comes and goes, like a dream. It is insubstantial, ephemeral,
transient, while nothingness is the great unknown, the complete rest, and
complete peace and freedom.
also learn that YOU are aware of the entire process of something arising and
setting into nothingness, and you are separate from both. You are that which is
aware of the entire process of consciousness arising and setting, and you are
also aware of of the flip side, of nothingness which gives birth to
consciousness, and absorbs consciousness at its end.
With this you are free from life
and death. You know consciousness and its setting. Each day you are born into
consciousness, and each evening you die into it, and yet you have watched the
whole process as apart from you.
You are that which is aware of
life and death.
But to just read about it does
not really help you much. For you the entire talk about consciousness and
nothingness is just words, concepts, and you will continue to compare Ramana’s
words against Muktananda’s, and Robert’s without EVER knowing for yourself
until after you stop reading about it, and start investigating for yourself
through self-inquiry and by watching the awakening process, and when that is
mastered, watching the sinking into Nothingness process.
Then you will never again fear
death, for nothingness is infinite, and the metaphorical womb for your
consciousness, which is exactly the same as everyone else’s, as is your
It is so very, very easy to have
spiritual discussions after reading dozens of spiritual books and doing some
but of meditation.But it is so hard to
find students that really want to dive deeply into spirituality, but so few are
able to let go of all their learning, and become spiritually stupid, or empty.
When I speak about the emptiness
that I experience, the Void.Very few
who listen have either seen or felt the inner emptiness, the inner space that
interpenetrates all objects or mind, all feelings, all energies, and
bliss.Nor have they seen the light of
Consciousness that illumines my inner world.
Nor do they know about their own sense of presence, because for most, it is
only a concept, not a direct, ongoing experience.
Most have no idea about the I Am sensation, let alone experience it.Nor after years of abiding there know the
difference between I as the observer, and the sense of presence as the I
Fewer still now that everything
that is, is consciousness.All that we
ever know is known through our minds and senses; thus all that we know is
consciousness, its properties and its objects.
Many more experience the fires of consciousness, Shakti,
Kundalini, bliss, or see flowing patterns of multicolored light flowing in and
around the heart to various parts of their bodies. Few have learned how to eat
emotions, by accepting them, abiding in them, then bring them into your most
intimate heart-sense, and thereby integrating them into your sense of presence
in a flash of bliss that might last a day of being unable to move because of
the depth of bliss.They call this
aspect of Self the divine feminine, but all sentient creatures have its
manifestation potentially within.
Nor does more than a very few the difference between consciousness and
awareness, where awareness is consciousness of being aware of awareness, and
that being conscious of awareness gives you access to the deepest level of the
Manifest Self, the ultimate first person, which Ramakant calls “The Selfless
Self.”The Selfless Self, is the
ultimate first person, the primary knower, the hearer, watcher, and primary
intelligence directing attention.It is
the executive functioning of all that is in consciousness.
Beyond all this is the Unmanifest Self, the noumenal,
non-existent self of Nothingness, potential, from which the Manifest Self
When I speak to all these levels—and there are many, many more—there are so few
who can listen.They think I am mad,
living in my mind or imagined inner worlds.But these are as clear to me as is the experience of being in a powerful
muscle car is for the average male teenager.
What a tremendous journey one steps
into when they stop reading about spirituality and instead plunge into
spirituality through intense and long meditation, self-inquiry, pondering the
meaning of each experience and deepening each by attending within.But it takes fearlessness to let go of the
world and plunge within.It take commitment
to continue when nothing seems to happen.And it takes—most of all—persistence, and that comes when you realize
that there is nothing in the external world for you.For me, it was not a recognition that I had
given it up, but actually knowing that in my disinterest, the world lost
interest in me.It gave me freedom and
helped me along in my inner journey.
Our Inner World is as complex as our external world, with all kinds of "objects" and "Containers" such as Emptiness and The Void, as well as all kinds of knowledge about each.
The Heart Sutra talks about the equality of form and emptiness or the Void, but few even have experienced the inner emptiness, which is often first experienced as an inner and dense darkness.
Then there is Self. The Self as human is regarded in Advaita as unreal, while the Self as consciousness is called the Manifest Self or love, Shakti, light, bliss, and flowing energies.
Deeper than the Manifest Self is awareness, whcih is first understood as there is something that ia aware that we are aware of consciousness. This awareness is called "The Selfless Self" by Ramakant, Nisargadattas student, the Inner Man of No Rank in Zen, higher intelligence, the witness as in small w witness as opposed to large W witness, also called Parabrahman.
This kind of self-exploration and self-understanding can take a lifetime to realize and manifest.
There is an pervasive concept that the personality must die either immediately before awakening or as a result of it. This is not true. What happens is that the personality becomes "hollowed"; it is pervaded by emptiness and becomes like a hologram that you can see through its form. You, the witness, sees through your personality, and can choose to let it be in your life, or just hold it in silence.
So many teachers say the personality must die, but if you watch them, listen to them, follow them, you will find them filled with pettiness, vanity, giving themselves high rankings, or being rather thin skinned and defensive about their attainment or their teachings.
Robert was an amiable sociopath, always hiding motives and actions, manipulating people in the background, and he was the most profoundly entrenched in Nothingness than any other human I have ever met.
The personality is just mind and the interplay of mind and one's own sense of presence, of existence. Like the mind and the sense of presence, it can be watched, or allowed to function in this or that body.
As a bit of advice for seekers, as a general rule, don't go to a teacher whose words "resonate" with you. The feelings of acceptance or clearer understanding that you feel, maybe of being understood, only means you are comfortable with that person's teachings. This means you already understood this level of spiritual teachings, but the teacher's words confirm and clarify what you had merely felt before.
This kind of teacher and these teachings basically reinforce where you already are and make you comfortable there.
Instead, go to a teacher whose words you don't understand, and whose words may leave you stunned because what he or she says is so astounding, and his or her personality may be the the one that you find most uncomfortable, for this will challenge everything about who and where you are.
Schuckles, my companion in cat colony management in Northridge, has died after
her long struggle with cervical cancer at age 70. She died in great pain. Even morphine did not make it bearable.
Marie had a hard life the last ten years. After her mother died, their home was sold to
cover the mother’s debts. Marie moved in
with her sister P., who really didn’t want her there, and she slept in the
living room, on a couch, without any privacy.
P. did not even turn on the air conditioning o heat at night for Marie
in the living room downstairs. Her other
sister, N., finally convinced Marie to get rid of all her storage belongings,
giving them to her newly found, adopted out son, and with that money she got
her own apartment, and for the last three months of her life she was happy.
I just found
out that she died ten days ago, and have been trying to locate the three people
she turned her cat caretaking efforts over to.
Michael feeding my street cats in 2013
86 and has been managing feral cat colonies for over 45 years. She now has at least 100 cats she is feeding,
getting spayed/neutered, and placing in homes.
So far, I
have not located the person that is taking care of the 27 cats I was caring
for, near California State University in Northridge, and I am hoping it is
Marilyn, who herself contracted cancer about 8 years ago, and so far has beaten
her cancer. She too was taking care of
many cats, rescuing even more and placing them in homes. I have two of her street cats, Radha and
Look, I hold weekly satsangs, write books, and post about Advaita teachings,
Robert Adams, and ways of experiencing
various kinds of self-realization, as well advising many hundreds of
people via email, mail, and phone calls regarding spiritual practice. I have had many people that have come and
stayed with me for weeks at a time, and I have really asked for nothing.
But I am
asking all of you who care for my efforts, and who
One of five stops where I fed cats
manifest love and
compassion, to donate money to these three women who feed many hundreds of
cats, have them spayed and neutered, rescue them, and place them in homes.
I want you
to send them money. I ask you to call
them, talk to them, learn all they do, and ask how you can help.
this for me.
Valerie Stark (818) 900-3548
20032 Vintage St. Chatsworth, CA 91311
When I last talked to Valerie two
days ago, she was about to go out feeding her ferals, saying the winds were
freezing cold and 70 mph! We all worry
about our feral friends outdoors.
Jacquec (818) 826 0299
19037 Bryant St. #4, Northridge, Ca 91324
I am trying
to locate her now. In the meantime,
please send the money to me which I will give her for caring for my cats. If I cannot locate her, I will give the money
to Valerie or Maria.
SATSANG AT 10:30 A.M. SUNDAY 12/25
started this new round of Satsangs a month ago, that first Satsang was
tentative, because that inner voice that had previously used me to speak for
that which is beyond this Ed Muzika body and mind was starting anew, has now grown
more powerful and more emotionally eloquent.
When we have
Satsang, make no mistake, it is not me talking to you, but consciousness itself
to your consciousness.Also, deep within
me, that which is beyond consciousness is also speaking to you who are also beyond
consciousness, that who knows the coming and going of consciousness, and is itself
untouched by consciousness.
reason, I want to hold a special Satsang this Sunday on Christmas, at 10:30
A.M. Arizona time, 12:30 P.M. Eastern Standard time, 5:30 P.M. U.K. time.
That day I will speak about the approach of love, of Bhakti, to the awakening
of the Divine Self within, the spirit, Shakti, wherein the Self becomes aware
of itself as consciousness and Shakti only, above and beyond the which are
Go to http://satsangwithedji.weebly.com,
and use the passwordedjiwhenever asked for a password.Come early and listen to the chanting at the
bottom of the page, especially the ALL NEW KUNDALINI CHANTS.
DONALD TRUMP PROMISED TO DRAIN THE SWAMP OF LOBBYISTS FRONTING FOR CORPORATE BILLIONAIRES AND THE MILITARY.
HE IS REPLACING THE LOBBYISTS DIRECTLY WITH THE BILLIONAIRES AND GENERALS THEY HAD REPRESENTED, NO LONGER NEEDING THE LOBBYISTS.
HE ATTACKED HILLARY FOR PAID TALKS TO GOLDMAN, AND HAS NOW ADDED THREE GOLDMAN EXECUTIVES TO THE TOP OF HIS ADMINISTRATION.
AND, TRUMP IS ATTACKING THE MEDIA FOR EXPOSING HIS CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND DESTROYING ANY ACCOUNTABLILITY FOR WHAT HE IS ABOUT TO DO TO OUR COUNTRY THROUGH A TRUMP-CORPORATE/MILITARY TAKEOVER.
MEANWHILE, OBAMA IS DEMANDING AN INVESTIGATION OF RUSSIAN ELECTION HACKING--ABOUT FOUR MONTHS LATE. HE SEES THE DISASTER OF A TRUMP AMERICA UNFOLDING, BUT HE IS A WHIMP AS ALWAYS WHEN IT COMES TO WALL STREET TAKEOVERS, MAINLY BECAUSE HE HAD PLANNED TO BE THE CHIEF POST OBAMA BENEFICIARY OF HIS PRO-WALL STREET STANCE OF EIGHT YEARS.
Is he using experiential words relevant or potentially relevant to my life, or is he using abstract, philosophical words?
Jidda Krishnamurti and U.G. Krishnamurti emphasize the hopelessness of believing and following teachers who have little or no actual spiritual experience in terms of understanding themselves, and merely parrot Ramana or some other teacher, although Ramana is the teacher most frequently parroted.
You also need to be clear about what you are looking for.
Are trying to find someone who understands and can explain certain spiritual experiences you have had? This is absolutely the wrong reason to seek out a teacher.
Drop that search immediately because it is not relevant to your present experiencing. Past experience is gone, a memory that should not be allowed to haunt you.
You see, that experience has not stayed with you. Where you are now is most important, and what you have to do is carefully explore your present experience, especially your inner experience, and see if there are any invariants, any inner experience that does not change.
Such would be the experience of a vast inner space, emptiness, which is the mainstay of Buddhism. Do you know emptiness, both inner and outer?
Do you experience the Lifeforce within as a formless entity empowering and acting through you? Are you aware that all that you know and all that you experience about yourself and the world is experienced through the medium of YOUR consciousness, and all that you really ever know is consciousness?
Are you able to watch big emotions, such as sadness, grief, love, jealousy, anger, etc., without fearing them? Can you accept and totally coexist with even the strongest emotion? Is this what you are seeking to do, to expose hidden emotions and reabsorb them into your sense of self?
Have you located the I sense within, or the I Am somewhere in your chest, gut, or head? Can you focus on it, stay with it, and bring it into your heart?
Do you want to experience the bliss of having a close relationship with the Lifeforce, AKA Shakti? Do you see how Shakti depends on consciousness to be part of your experience, and without consciousness--your consciousness--there is no experience of Shakti and no bliss?
Are you aware of your own sense of presence, that you exist as a presence in the world, and this presence permeates and penetrates your body and mind and extends like an energy field into the space around you?
Are you aware of an inner, formless, "entity" that is aware of consciousness, and which can watch the coming and going of your waking state, dream state, and sleep without itself being touched? Are you aware of all the movements of consciousness and the mind that flows when you first awaken, including the coming and going of consciousness, and the simultaneous presence of the witnessing of these changes within.
It is this kind of direct, experiential knowledge and experience which you should be looking for in a teacher, not someone who speaks abstractly about enlightenment or awakening, Nirvana or Brahman, Jiva or Atman, without carefully explaining these experiences.
Sri Edji, I bow to you Master and thank you for calling me ! This AM when meditating, the personality was gone and I was Consciousness-very blissful.
Then out of nowhere...............you know how it is when your busy with something and all of a sudden you know something is Watching you.
Well I am the I am and shit all of a sudden something is watching this whole thing happen.
In my imagination my head turned slightly to the right only to see a window with a light for the background but nothing there. And I knew I and Consciousness was being observed. Nothing like this has ever happened before but I realized that is behind the window ............. before birth, timeless, space less and emptiness. This is my true home.
I wish I had the words, the capacity to inspire others to
pursue an inner search, an inner way of being, of discovery of all that lies
within.It is a fantastic voyage of
profound satisfaction, discovering who and what you are.
The levels of consciousness are endless.We seek and explore each level.Waking mind, the subtle energy body, the
workings of Shakti, the falling of the mind into the heart, the absorption of
consciousness into consciousness, with the peace and freedom it brings.
I wish I could teach an easy and rapid way, but my own way was long,
meandering, confused and confusing because I just drifted from teacher to teacher,
having lost my own original way of self-inquiry which produced fantastic
results in a very short period of time, and got diverted into Zen and then
Siddha Yoga for a long period before returning home to the three greats,
Robert, Nisargadatta, and Ramana.
But like Odysseus, because my journey was long, I see and
feel what each method offers, but that ultimately, you have to find the deepest
self within, the witness of all through self-inquiry.
The world is such a mess, and so is the spiritual
marketplace.How to find truth?Look within for the I-thought, then the
I-sense.Feel for the I-sensation in yor
chest, the heart of your being, the heart of your heart, the place to which the
Kundalini returns, and with it, the loosening of your attachment to your body,
which allows you to become universal, everywhere, everything.
When Buddha opened his eyes and saw the Morning Star, he uttered the most famous quote in Buddhism. What he reportedly said has a number of variants, but the most literal is, “From the earth below to the sky above, I am the only one.”
Buddha realized that everything from the external world, to his thoughts, feelings, and body were only known through his consciousness. His body and the world were just appearances in his consciousness.
I don’t understand why many readers have not understood this sentence and take it to be a denial of the existence of the external world. It is not. The existence or not of the external world is irrelevant.
It is realizing that the world is only known through YOUR consciousness. For all intents and purposes, it may or may not exist independently of your body, but your consciousness contains all your knowledge, your mind, your experiences, as well as the sense that you exist, the sense that you are. But this sense that you are has generally been identified with the body. The body is the source of consciousness that reveals the external world. But Buddha realized that all that he ever knew was really about himself, and he no longer identified as a localized body, but he identified with the entirety of his experience. He was one with everything, not just the body.
This understanding is twofold. Many people experience in meditation unity consciousness where the body appears to disappear and one feels like one has become the entire visible universe. These experiences open you to the possibility that you are more than just the body.
In this experience ‘you’ are no longer Fred, Ted, Sam, or Linda, ‘you’ experience yourself as everything that you see, hear, smell and touch. There is no longer any separation between you and the world. The totality of you as body mind, has become one with your experience of the external world.
You also realize that the forms of the world, like clouds, are constantly changing and impermanent. Even a mountain changes in appearance as you walk or ride around it, but in a sense, that mountain is always you, for it alone is your mountain, not Fred's, Ed,s, or Ted's. It is an appearance in your awareness; it is in your consciousness as a temporary experience, just as is your body.
With this experience you become free. There is no longer anything to be attained, anywhere to go, because each moment you are complete, at rest as self.
Of course your body continues to function using your mind to attend to day to day affairs, but you know deep down inside that all that you know is your own consciousness, and it contains everything.
Robert Adams said, “I see the world like you do, but I know that you are consciousness. You do not know that you are consciousness; you think you are a very limited body.”
The second most common first sentence the Buddha made was, “From the earth below to the sky above, I am the world honored one.”
This reflects two “facts.” One is that early Buddhism was heavily slanted to worshiping and idolizing the Buddha as someone very beyond you and me, and therefore, it is a mistake. Buddha's consciousness was the same as yours, but the understanding is different.
The second way this phrase may be understood is that with this experience, one obtains a new sense of wonder and a deep sense of gratitude, and peace. It is a different sort of existence than you have now where you imagine yourself to be a limited human. You have stepped beyond the limits of being human to becoming unlimited, and with it, the world becomes totally benevolent. It is not separate from you, as it does not exist without you, and in a sense it serves you, not the limited human you, but you as the manifest totality of your consciousness.
Everyone and everything is a guest in you, and you are the ultimate host, the owner of your consciousness. The knot in your heart that is the ego identity with your body, has opened, and you dwell resting in the totality.